The main reason is fit. It also keeps the sleeves in place when layering up or reaching overhead. Choosing between these materials is perhaps the most important choice when deciding on which long underwear to buy.
Last two weeks I was on Corsica diving C F for about 3hrs at a time mostly in 12m 39feet. Would remain plenty warm the whole dive through. My dive buddy who gets cold much easier was also diving a 3mm custom suit and would be cold at the end of 3hrs. I only lasted 2hrs in 23C 73F without a wet-suit at all and found that near the end my dive times were declining and I tired out faster. In Bavarian lakes last summer which varied from C F once you get under the first meter I also found the suit fine for hrs.
Same dive buddy that would get cold at the end of 3hrs in C uses a 5mm for this diving. I have an exceptionally stocky build and am a bit overweight, I joke have a layer of bioprene read FAT.
This body type loses dramatically less heat than a long thin person surface area to volume ratio. The difference in heat loss is exaggerated when you are physically active in the water because of increased blood flow through extremities. In addition I have a lot of experience swimming and diving in cold water, so I can "feel" comfortable and remain active with a lowered body temperature than some other people. Water temperature tolerance is a very personal issue.
Anything above 5mm tends to inhibit movement too much to be useful for general use, and it has larger buoyancy differences that can be unpleasant for freediving. I am an American who has been living in Germany for a number of years, but it is easier for me to write in English! Great info, thanks a lot! I am a German who had been living in the States for a while, just the other way around.: Bill Baron of Breathold Supporter.
Oct 17, 1, 79 Kona kv6j. Gunnar Just a few comments on your original post. My Elios suit had a high waist that I didn't like so I cut the front below the rib cage. Very little difference but it feels better. I used cut a slit in my farmer john 6mm suits from the belly button to the top for the same reason. Don't be afraid to try something like this because it is easy to put them back together if it doesn't work.
Packing will increase your lungs quite a few molecules less wasted energy and works well against pressure. Don't even start packing without the help of an instructor, imho. I am fearing that a Long John might restrain my breathing a bit since it has to stretch a lot over my chest. I thought about cutting some pieces out of the suit or a slit into it. I wasn't sure if it were possible to repair the cuts with neo glue if i don't like it.
Hearing that it is no problem is great. Hi Gunnar, just a short additional hint for the Elios suits.. Elios commendates to use only suits less than 7mm for deep diving.. And at the moment it takes around 3 weaks for custom made suits. They do not pay me!
Hi Andrea, I did not intend to cut away the whole shoulder part. I thought more of a piece on the chest I am of course aware that any adjustment done to the suit could make the suit fit even worse. I best wait and see how the suit fits, maybe no adjustments will be necessary. I keep hearing only the best about elios.
And honestly I would love to have a custom suit. My budget just doesn't allow it at the moment.: Gunnar what kind of diving do plan to do? Where do you dive? How long do you dive? How deep do you normally dive? How much mobility do you need? How cold do you get? This will affect the wetsuit you need. Also some basic pricing info from Elios from a year ago Just so you realize that are not that bad. All wetsuits wear out with use.
The Elios prices are quotes from last year and do not include pads. It is probably a nicer neoprene than the Elios-Econoline, but the difference in fit could make less warm and less durable you will stretch and tear a wetsuit that doesn't fit as well faster depending on your body type.
I have never seen the Elios econoline material. I have Heiwa medium density 3mm, and I purchased a Heiwa medium density 4mm for my girlfriend for Christmas. Mostly lakes auround Karlsruhe, Germany and vacations Mediterranian How long do you dive?
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